| optionplayer333 801 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:14:47 AM 
 1. buys now weekly calls
 
 165-0.16
 
 165.5>0.7
 
 166>0.03
 
 
 
 2. they have gotten 3.5 billion $ s worth of spy at 164 to 164.60 the last 2 days
 
 
 
 the max pain is at 166 now> they will likely go to 166.50 and close above 166
 
 
 
 
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| optionplayer333 801 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:18:00 AM 
 SPY 142.38B $164.67 -0.47% 55.67M 1.28  +$2.03B >5-24
 SPY 142.80B $165.43 -0.30% 193.77M 1.08  +$1.37B >5-23
 
 
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| jimmyjazz 102 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:28:47 AM 
 You expect SPY to pop 2 points in the next 4.5 hours?
 
 
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| edbrady 10 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:42:42 AM 
 Dude - he is right - the options already went from .16 cents to .24 cents
 
 
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| jimmyjazz 102 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:49:56 AM 
 I really struggle to understand his posts.  I'm familiar with max pain theory, and in my observations, it doesn't seem all that reliable.  Right now SPY is at $164.80, and $166.50 seems a long way away.
 
 But I hope he's right!  Just so long as GLD doesn't drop below $132.50.  :)
 
 
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| edbrady 10 posts
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 | 5/24/2013 11:55:39 AM 
 Well - what he was saying was to grab the options at .16 cents and they were already up to .26 cents.
 So grab 1,000 contracts and make 10 cents
 
 
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| jimmyjazz 102 posts
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 | 5/26/2013 10:18:27 AM 
 Well, it didn't get anywhere near $166, much less $166.50, but I can't argue with buying at $0.16 and selling at $0.25!
 
 Tell me . . . how exactly does one deal with large bid/ask spreads when trying to jump on a trade like this?  I guess on SPY options it's not too bad, but even now I see the spread is some 10%, which is pretty rough if you're trying to grab a 5% pop.
 
 Do you always try to trade at the middle of the spread?  That would seemingly mitigate the effect.  "The middle" would pop the same amount as the bid & ask, but you'd never be on the wrong side.  I just don't know how realistic that is.
 
 
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| edbrady 10 posts
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 | 5/26/2013 11:07:10 AM 
 I never trade anything over a 5 cent spread. In fact, I usually trade penny increment option, as Think or Swim has a built in category that will only show those stocks with penny spreads. They are the most liquid and easiest to get in and out.
 
 
 
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