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machismo
115 posts
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3/8/2012 1:31:54 PM

Another urban legend

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/oregonstate.asp

dangreene
229 posts
msg #105308
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3/8/2012 1:35:28 PM

More BS debunked by SNOPES

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/oregonstate.asp

TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #105317
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3/8/2012 4:02:54 PM

I am glad you guys are on the ball.



TheRumpledOne
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3/8/2012 4:36:14 PM

Can the President Kill You?

By Judge Andrew Napolitano - Thursday, March 8, 2012

Can the president kill an American simply because the person is dangerous and his arrest would be impractical? Can the president be judge, jury and executioner of an American in a foreign country because he believes that would keep America safe? Can Congress authorize the president to do this?

Earlier this week, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder attempted to justify presidential killing in a speech at Northwestern University law school. In it, he recognized the requirement of the Fifth Amendment for due process. He argued that the president may substitute the traditionally understood due process — a public jury trial — with the president’s own novel version of it; that would be a secret deliberation about killing. Without mentioning the name of the American the president recently ordered killed, Holder suggested that the president’s careful consideration of the case of New Mexico-born Anwar al-Awlaki constituted a substituted form of due process.


The rest of the article can be found here:

Can the President Kill You?

TheRumpledOne
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msg #105322
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3/8/2012 4:46:11 PM

Robert’s Response: What Matters is Liberty and Freedom, Not the Chevy Volt

By Robert Ringer - Thursday, March 8, 2012

In response to my Insight about the Chevy Volt, reader “WTF” commented, in part:

You folks are a bunch of traitorous sheep. Wishing the Volt to be gone puts thousands of Americans out of work – I only wish the SAME for each of you. It is an engineering marvel, runs 40-44 miles on electricity, which is a round-trip commute for most people, and in the South, that’s 7-10 cents per kWh.

You folks should take your heads out of your you-know-what, swing by a Chevy dealer, and at least SEE what you’re complaining about. This car was in the works WAY before the bailout, and while you morons are spending $5 or more per gallon and crying and whining, Volt drivers will be laughing at you at 2-3 cents per mile.

As is so often the case when a specific issue is debated, the broader, more important issue(s) is lost in the shuffle. The real issue is freedom. The real issue is free markets. The real issue is the Constitution. The real issue is adherence to the law of the land.

I do not wish the Volt to be gone. I just want the free market to decide whether or not it should survive. If people, of their own free will, believe it’s worth the price, they’ll buy the Volt and GM will continue to produce it. If not, the car will go out of production, as it should. Creative destruction is a vital part of keeping the marketplace healthy.

GM and Big Brother have violated the law. The quid pro quo from the government was: “Screw your equity holders and give up control to our union supporters, and, in return, we’ll allow you to feed at the government’s corporate-welfare trough.”

Whether or not the Volt was “in the works” before the bailout is irrelevant. What is relevant is that taxpayers were forced to bail out GM. In my view, that was a criminal act.

If the Volt were the greatest car ever produced, it wouldn’t matter. Even if millions of people wanted to buy it, it wouldn’t matter. What matters is our liberty, and when the government becomes involved in anything other than defending the Constitution, our liberty is violated.

Liberty must be given a higher priority than all other objectives — including a politician’s desire to do good things for people. As Senator Jim DeMint points out in his constitutionally grounded book, Now or Never, it’s not the government’s job to do good things. Its job is to protect our natural rights.

Whether or not America survives much longer may well depend upon how many people can be brought around to understanding this fundamental truth.

You have permission to reprint this article so long as you place the following wording at the end of the article:

Copyright © 2012 Robert Ringer
ROBERT RINGER is a New York Times #1 bestselling author and host of the highly acclaimed Liberty Education Interview Series, which features interviews with top political, economic, and social leaders. He has appeared on Fox News, Fox Business, The Tonight Show, Today, The Dennis Miller Show, Good Morning America, The Lars Larson Show, ABC Nightline, and The Charlie Rose Show, and has been the subject of feature articles in such major publications as Time, People, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Barron's, and The New York Times.

dangreene
229 posts
msg #105334
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3/9/2012 9:30:11 AM

Lets not forget whose decision it was.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500395_162-4664996.html

TheRumpledOne
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3/19/2012 2:27:45 PM



dangreene
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3/19/2012 4:04:38 PM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp

TheRumpledOne
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3/20/2012 6:10:12 PM

IN MY INBOX...

*Now here's something to think about.*

When I was about 9 years old I remember asking my dad about Castro . I asked, "Is Castro a good guy or bad?"

Dad said...he couldn't tell!! This was about 1955. We were living in Louisiana ...at the time. Dad was in the Army and stationed there.

Cuba was fairly close and in the news a lot. The Cubans were asking the same question! Ike was president.

This past July 4th, we had the pleasure of sharing a summer barbecue with a refugee from Cuba. Our dinner conversation was starkly different than most.

This refugee came to the United States as a young boy in the early 1960's. His family was more fortunate than most, as they were able to bring a suitcase and $100 when they fled Castro's newly formed revolutionary paradise.

Our dinner consisted of all-American fare: hamburgers, potato salad, fresh ears of sweet corn and watermelon. This is a menu shared with family and friends nationwide...while celebrating the birth of our beloved America ...on the Fourth of July.

We began with a simple discussion about our country, and the direction it has taken since Barack Obama came to power. We shared the usual complaints about the sour economy and liberal social engineering emanating from the rulers in Washington.

But then he said it. The sentence flowed naturally from our refugee guest. I assume it was unplanned. But it carried the weight of a freight train. "You know when Castro took power, none of us knew he was a Communist".

We sat stunned. He continued, "Yes, we all thought he was a patriot, a nationalist. Before the revolution he didn't sound like a radical."

The comparison at this point was easy, and I interjected, "You mean just like Barack Obama?"

He responded; "Yes, just like Barack Obama." He continued, "We were all shocked as the government just continued to grab more power. First they said the revolution is over, so please turn in your guns. We all complied."

I also remember my uncle saying; “Castro will only nationalize some of the big industries. He will never come and take our family hardware store!!” But that is exactly what happened. Castro started with the sugar mills and the large industries, but they eventually came and knocked on the door of our family hardware store. My family had run this store for generations. They said we now own the hardware store, you work for us. And that four-bedroom home you own...it is now our property too. You have to move yourself and the five children into those two rooms of the house, because others are moving in here with you."

The lesson learned from this discussion, is a lesson most Americans refuse to hear. Political leaders can lie about their agenda and once in office, they can take totally unexpected turns.

If you had asked us three years ago if we thought General Motors or Chrysler would be nationalized, we would have never believed it. We could never contemplate a country where the rule of law, the most fundamental building block of a justice society...would be evaporating, just like it did in Castro's Cuba in the early 1960's. But the news of injustice keeps increasing; Black Panthers are not charged with wrong doing by the U.S. Department of Justice...because their crimes are against whites; The bond holders of GM are stripped of their assets...without being given due process by the government; Car Dealerships are closed with out due process; Governmental leaders are bribed in full daylight...only to have all investigation of the crimes stifled...by the Attorney General;
The U.S. borders are over run with crime and illegal activity, and the leaders in D.C. act as if it is important to protect the lawbreakers...while the innocent are killed and over run; When local communities attempt to enforce the law, they are ridiculed...and threatened as racists and bigots. They are sued by the very administration entrusted with enforcing the law.

Without the rule of law, the U.S. Constitution is a sham!! Without the rule of law, our beloved Americais swiftly becoming a country where only the well connected and politically powerful will be safe. As an author recently and so eloquently explained in her most recent book..."a culture of corruption has replaced honest government" (Michelle Malkin).

The only way this problem will be fixed, is by massive citizen action. All honest citizens that want to be treated equally, must come together...and demand that the favoritism, the bribes, the uneven enforcement of law...end now!! And yes, it can happen if we all pull together. PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!! And...may God save the United States of America! *

*...the very least you can do is forward this email. 6 million plus Jews didn't believe it could happen in Germany either!!! If you're a Christian in these United States of America, you're probably next on the list. History bares that out. The real problem here is, the boy from Cuba did manage to make it to the U.S. Today he and we will not have any place to escape to...except death!

AS A COUNTRY, HAVE WE BECOME THIS COMPLACENT? WILL YOU JUST TURN YOUR BACK AND LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES? I HOPE NOT...


TheRumpledOne
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3/20/2012 7:40:08 PM

Political Lies: Democrats Increase Game to New Level as We Approach the Election

By Robert Ringer - Monday, March 19, 2012

There’s an old saying, sometimes attributed to Newt Gingrich, that “They can lie louder, but we can tell the truth longer.” I’d like to believe that, but after years of watching the Lying Left in action, I’m not so sure about it.

Based on how they’ve ramped up their game since the Obamaviks arrived in Washington back in 2009, I’m convinced that the Lying Left possesses the audacity, the shamelessness, and the relentlessness required to tell the most outrageous and vile lies every bit as long as those of us who love liberty can tell the truth.

Ho Chi Minh once said that Americans were “short of breath.” By that he meant they did not have the will to go the distance and defeat North Vietnam and the Viet Cong. If he had had more knowledge of American politics, he might have revised his statement to say that it is pseudo-conservative Americans who are short of breath.

The Lying Left has been blessed with a cesspool of bona fide marathon liars, and is well aware that most professed conservatives have neither the strength nor the character to match their outrageous lies with the truth indefinitely.

The worst-kept secret in Washington is that Republicans are easily intimidated by the Lying Left. At the first sight of blood, mushy RINOs fold under such euphemisms as “compromise,” “bipartisanship,” and “Americans want us to work together.”

The uncouth among us might be inclined to refer to such euphemisms as crap. But since such language is beneath me, I prefer to say that conservative truths have a tendency to morph into lies over time. Compromise is a lie. Bipartisanship is a lie. The desire for Democrats and Republicans to work together is a lie. What these euphemisms really mean is more government control, more regulation, higher taxes, and less liberty.

That’s why the leading Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, has no intention of trying to tell the truth longer than the Lying Left is prepared to lie. The latest example of this is his amazing statement that “we’re in a recovery mode, finally.”

Really? America is $15 trillion in debt (and on the way to $25 trillion or more in the next ten years), has $50-$100 trillion in unfunded Social Security and Medicare liabilities, is suffering a real unemployment rate (according to Gallup) of 10.3 percent, and 46 million people are on food stamps — and we’re in a recovery mode? Democrats must be thinking, “With opponents like Romney, who needs supporters?”

The endurance of the Lying Left is a testament to the efficacy of one of Saul Alinsky’s most cherished community-organizing strategies: Isolate and target your enemies (usually those who work for a living and respect the rights of others), then overwhelm them with lies. If you’re caught with your pants on fire, not a problem. Just put out the blaze quickly and double down on your lies.

The biggest lie of all, of course, is Obamacare — this week’s hot topic among Beltwayans. The media is in a frenzy trying to smooth over the question of how BHO could have been so “inaccurate” when he was trying to sell his Obamonstrosity to the giddy American public back in his B.S. heyday. Now, the whole unconstitutional mess is rapidly becoming a buffet of lies.

For starters, the $1 trillion cost is a lie. Though the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) now projects the cost of Obamacare to be roughly double that amount, the truth is that, if it is not overturned or repealed, it will end up costing many multiplies of the original “estimate.”

Then there were the endless times that the Duplicitous Despot assured us that anyone who wanted to keep his doctor or his current health insurance would be able to do so. That, too, turned out to be a lie. Various estimates are that anywhere from 14 to 20 million workers are going to lose their current healthcare as a result of Obamacare.

The Lying Left, however, points out that the CBO says that most of these workers will qualify for Obamacare benefits, so they will simply be shifted into government-run healthcare. But that’s the whole point! It was clear from the outset that the purpose of Obama’s signature piece of socialist legislation was to force everyone into the government-run healthcaresystem and push insurance companies out of business.

The Lying Left is also emphasizing that 30 million previously uninsured people will now be covered. Isn’t that great? The official name for this achievement is redistribution of wealth.

Of course, some members of the Lying Left occasionally let their egos and arrogance get the best of them and unthinkingly tell the truth when they want to shove their agenda into the faces of their opponents.

That’s what happened with Donald Berwick, whom Obama named as the Administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services in 2010, when he said, in a 2008 speech about the UK healthcare system, “Any healthcare funding plan that is just, equitable, civilized, and humane must — must — redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and the less fortunate. Excellent health care is by definition redistributional.”

Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, another card-carrying member of the Lying Left, made the same kind of ego-oriented mistake, also in 2008, when he said, “Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”

Government-created rights … food stamps … unemployment benefits … Social Security … Medicare … Card Check … global warming … green energy … Cap and Trade … artificially low interest rates … fiat currency … lies, lies, and more lies.

The founder of the Lying Left, Vladimir Lenin, undoubtedly would have scolded both Berwick and Chu if he were alive today. Lenin made the rules of the game clear when he famously said, “To tell the truth is a petty bourgeois habit, whereas for us to lie is justified by our objectives.”

And he would have chuckled at today’s Republicans, who don’t have strong enough convictions to seriously challenge the Lying Left. It would please him greatly to see that there are still plenty of useful idiots around who can be manipulated into helping collectivists achieve their goals.

All of which raises the question: How do we go about putting a presidential candidate in place who has the courage to match the Lying Left, lie for lie, with the truth — and then some?

If you know the answer to this question, please do not hesitate to step forward and speak your piece, because the way things look right now, conservatives are once again about to be sold out.

You have permission to reprint this article so long as you place the following wording at the end of the article:

Copyright © 2012 Robert Ringer
ROBERT RINGER is a New York Times #1 bestselling author and host of the highly acclaimed Liberty Education Interview Series, which features interviews with top political, economic, and social leaders. He has appeared on Fox News, Fox Business, The Tonight Show, Today, The Dennis Miller Show, Good Morning America, The Lars Larson Show, ABC Nightline, and The Charlie Rose Show, and has been the subject of feature articles in such major publications as Time, People, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Barron's, and The New York Times.

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